This episode is a conversation between Tim and his co-defendant Karenna Gore, immediately after the surprising verdict in the West Roxbury, Boston, MA pipeline resistance trial. They discuss their experience of civil disobedience that led to the trial and the ground-breaking result of an acquittal by reason of the necessity defense. Karenna Gore Director, Center for Earth Ethics at Union Theological Seminary https://twitter.com/KarennaGore https://twitter.com/EarthEthicsCtr https://centerforearthethics.org The Climate Workshop Podcast is hosted by Tim DeChristopher and Peter Bowden and is supported by our listeners via Patreon, the membership site for content creators. Value these conversations? Watch our video about being a podcast patron at https://www.patreon.com/climateworkshop Special thanks to Deia Scholsberg! This episode was recorded by our colleague and documentary filmmaker Deia Schosberg. Her work includes "How to Let Go of the World and Love All the Things Climate Can't Change" (2016), "Awake, A Dream from Standing Rock" (2017), and "The Reluctant Radical" (2018). Learn more about Deia's work at http://www.palebluedotmedia.com and the new "Bootstraps" basic income project at https://www.bootstrapsfilm.com. Thanks to Jay O’Hara! Thanks to Jay O’Hara for his insightful questions and support of this episode. Jay is one of the founders of the Climate Disobedience Center. https://twitter.com/oharjo https://twitter.com/ClimateDisobey http://www.climatedisobedience.org Connect with Tim DeChristopher http://timdechristopher.org http://facebook.com/timdechristopher.org http://www.twitter.com/dechristopher Connect with Peter Bowden http://peterbowden.net https://twitter.com/Peter_Bowden Music by Bryan Cahall http://www.twitter.com/BryanCahall http://www.facebook.com/BryanCahall Connect with the show online at http://climateworkshop.org http://facebook.com/climateworkshop http://twitter.com/ClimateWorkshop